Jen Psaki: The ingredients of a White House life

Yours truly talks food with President Biden's first press secretary

As you all know by now, food is my way of making sense of the world. (Tell me what you eat and I’ll tell you who you are, right?) But I’ve always been interested in how other people make sense of the world, and on today’s podcast I have someone who gets paid to do just that: Jen Psaki. 

Jen is a Washington veteran. She worked on President Obama’s first campaign and then in his administration. But most of us first got to know her in 2021, when Jen was named President Biden’s first press secretary. Her sharp and often funny exchanges with reporters were legendary, and were quickly called “Psaki bombs.”

Jen left the White House last year, and last month she became host of a weekly show on MSNBC: Inside with Jen Psaki. Now she’s the reporter having to ask tough questions—maybe one day to her former boss.

I’m not going to lie: I was really nervous to ask Jen questions. But it turns out she was even more nervous to talk to me about what she does, and doesn’t cook. Listen in to find out what her go-to meal is and what it’s really like to be inside the White House with President Biden.

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